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[Bulgaria] Bulgaria - it is the Slavs?

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@ seascrambler в этом форуме написал. 2 c, the Q9 the Y4 the P8 the W3 $ t of H x b6 the V4 @ seascrambler in this forum wrote.
Bulgarians are not Slavs!

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Russian wild to hear it. Indeed, in Vikipendii and all textbooks written Bulgarians South Slavic folk # A, t "A2 y F : E) e;` & T / y.!
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And yet we see that there is a strong attack on the Slavs. It is clear, from where it goes. Her finances America., Z- w! M7 C, B * M + o
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I consider it appropriate to open a discussion on the theme:
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. K8 H8 h; Кто такие фракийцы? 3 M I4 O2 Z2 a. ?9 Q, ^5 U t7 a (a3 S2 n Who are the Thracians? 3 M I4 O2 Z2 a.? 9 Q, ^ 5 U

8 q0 U + x7 M6 t3 h v $ u! Кто такие славяне, были ли они или нет? , D1 R* G y: b7 \ z Who are the Slavs, whether they were or not, D1 R * G y:? b7 \
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Are Bulgarians Slavs? 1 B "q. L5` 2 j Y "R2 O
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In the discussion, please do not get personal. Argumentation lead to evidence-based research with reference to the source 0 P- r7 X: y;. d (Y "s, p4 J9 q

. Параллельно устроим голосование. E $ V-] / V 'g & Q parallel arrange the vote.
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Yes, it is the Bulgarians Slavs

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And what does a vote to establish the truth? Posted on 02.05.2016 21:26
Voting is not the truth, but reytig, poimayu it? ;) Posted on 02.05.2016 21:32
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+ W1 b, v7 N3 P- q9 e! B; Я живу в Башкирии. y I live in Bashkiria. In Bashkir - own pride! Why is north of Komi-Bashkir people? Just lost the edge ????:?

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But - to the south of Egypt :) Posted on 05.02.2016 15:38
Absurd play - it is useless. Beckett with Ionesco pereplyunesh you do not))))))))) Posted on 02.05.2016 15:45
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Опубликовано 5.2.2016 17:40:31 Author | Posted 02/05/2016 17:40:31

The Bulgarians - a Slavic?

First of all, the question arises: "What is the Slavs - common morality, religion or origin" Some resources say that the Slavs never had other origins include Slavs to millions of years before our era. Plunged in this haphazard maelstrom of information resources untrained person generally loses any vital reference% [\.; p- L2 z2 g) B) k
Some objective and structured concepts try to make anonymous developers - Wikipedia, the free folk library. Last time, it is becoming increasingly popular:. Y * k & f + z) a1 I "d
Vikipendiya argues that "the Slavs - Europe's largest ethno-linguistic community." What is the relationship in language, rather than religion or territorial basis. Similarly, communities are Arabs and Germans.
Да, слово. Славяне разных государств легко понимают друг друга. Помогает в этом не только одинаковые слова в их языках, но и общее мировоззрение. Общими являются и вечные славянские ценности – любовь, доброта, справедливость. 5 P- V/ P. x7 S7 U! z' ` .... (Z0 d V (w) i, S Yes, the word Slavs different countries can easily understand each other helps in not only the same words in their language, but also the general outlook of the General are both eternal Slavic values ​​- love, kindness, justice. 5 P- V / P. x7 S7 U! z ' `
We know from the Bible that in the beginning was the word and the language was the same for everyone. Later, the Lord confused the language. A contemporary and friend of Gogol Lukashevich Plato believed that the mixing (charomutie) did not happen immediately. There are languages ​​that are closer to istotnomu (charomutnye) and farther away from him (pocharomutnye). Least charomutnym language he considered the Russian language ( http://charomutie.ru/ ). / Bed and! H4 g3 P8 Y '~ 0 G2 i; 1} M
But why the Slavs, not slovenias? Maybe this is not the correct reading of the chronicles? Indeed, in the "Tale of Bygone Years" written "slovenias".
Мавро Орбин в книге «Славянское царство» [Орбин М. Славянское царство - М.: ЗАО «ОЛМА Медиа Групп», 2010 – 528. ISBN 978-5-373-02871-4] пишет: «Во время своего жительства в Сарматии взяли они себе имя «славяне», что означает «славные». $ Q + r- 7 x- Q- |: S Mauro Orbini in the book "Slavic kingdom" [Orbini M. Slavic kingdom - M .: JSC "Olma Media Group", 2010 - 528. ISBN 978-5-373-02871? -4] writes: "During his residence in Sarmatia they took a name" Slavs ", which means" glorious ". Work Mauro Orbini in many positions in common with the work Vinko Priboevichem [Pismenoto inheritance and information technology [Text]: the material on the V International scientific. Conf. (Varna, 15-20 Septemvri 2014) / OTG. Ed. VA Baranov, V. Zhelyazkova, A. Lavrent'ev. - Sofia; Izhevsk, 014 - 448]..
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Опубликовано 5.2.2016 17:51:18 Author | Posted 02/05/2016 17:51:18
World Slavs.
Важной частью мировоззрения славян является «мировое дерево», которое описывает мир, состоящий из трех частей. ) _2 N4 S / q% Y4 H important part of the Slavic world is the "world tree", which describes the world, consisting of three parts. Underworld - Nav, the average world - the world of reality and the top - or Glory "Irij - paradise". Zbruch idol also consists of three parts. The upper level consists of the fertility goddess - Mokos, Lada - the goddess of marriage and family, Perun - the god of thunder and war, or Dazhdbog Horse - the god of sunlight. The male deity powers on Earth itself - the god Veles [Bulavkin KV Zbruch idol as a model of the cosmos in a pagan world view of the Eastern Slavs. // Bulletin of Moscow State Humanitarian Institute. . 2012. № 1.] 8 q3 J i2 E; t% D
Thus, the bases of the ethnic identity of the ancient Slavs can be considered common culture, language, ideology and mentality. One way or another, but at least look at our entertainers. The basic posture hands up and send praises to God - the sun (Horse). Interestingly, folk Slavic dances have the same basis. This religious rites dedicated to the god "the sun." In Russia, it dances, Bulgarian dance "horo", in Serbia the same dance called "kolo".
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Rare you .... balabol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This - not your house. And phalluses - not yours))))))))))))))))))) Posted on 02.05.2016 18:06
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Опубликовано 5.2.2016 17:57:58 Author | Posted 02/05/2016 17:57:58
Place of origin of the Slavs: G7?. d7 G (y (Y '_8 n
In the matter of the origin of the Slavs dominated Sarmatian theory. Who claimed that the Slavs came from the vast tribes of Asia Minor. Sarmatian theory was first mentioned in the 12th century in the "Chronicle of Bavaria." Chronicler began his work with the biblical story of mankind. And said information about the European nations, among which are mentioned and Russ. "The sons of Japheth, living in Central Asia and Kiev, which is now called Upper Rusia, unwilling to endure the tyrannical power of the sons of Ham, solder the sea at the bottom of the island west and seized them, namely Hibernia, Britain, Iceland Freese and Sweden. 6 l @ 0 @) l ^ 'J: c9 i
Other islands, namely Dacia, Norway, Gotland, and other sons of Japheth owned, giving the area from Rousseau to the Rhine Slavs. Again the effort they took possession of the Little and Great Tsitsiey until the present time do not miss the [possible] to expand and spread to the former boundaries of their possessions in the east and keep the Slavs. " This theory held and Tatishchev. This theory is also confirmed by the diploma, issued by Alexander the Great to the Slavs.% [ "N5` $ d O9 q
And some researchers identify as the cradle of Slavic Balkan peoples, other nations are focused on the Baltic countries and eastern Germany (Norman theory).
. ~ 7 [ 'R # C' d + k4 g8 e8 d $ K! Другая теория утверждает, что основа славянства древняя страна Гиперборея, находившаяся на северном полюсе. Z Another theory argues that the basis of the Slavs ancient country Hyperborea, is located at the north pole. During the flood and icing the northern part of the Earth of the inhabitants of this country in the Ural ridge he moved to Europe, and took it all, but later they were driven out by followers of Atlantis, Russell Sredezemnomore - Y:. NX * w, \ + I5 @ - r4 \ . ~ N 8
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As always, for the Jewish vote Slavs face !!

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Jews - it is not a nation, and religion. Purely Jewish gene only Levites and Cohanim, a cross between a rest, basically - it is the Slavs Posted 05/02/2016 18:07.
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Опубликовано 5.2.2016 18:04:11 Author | Posted 02/05/2016 18:04:11
Slavs Haplogroup
Генетические исследования [ Клёсов А. А. Происхождение славян и других народов: Очерки ДНК-генеалогии. - S U0 x6 J * A genetic study [Klyosov A. Origin of the Slavs and other peoples: Essays DNA genealogy. - 2011 - 645] show that the haplogroup of Aryans - of R1a appeared on Earth 5,000 years ago. Currently, this is the main haplogroup in Europe 2 N2 {3 E4 v:. [
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Map of Europe genotypes ( http://pandoraopen.ru/2010-08-02/genetika-slavyan/ ) 7 c:}, _- T5 Q # _ * Q7 K- l / @ 'z
1. Haplogroup R1a, which is colored in on the map in yellow. In the scientific world, it is commonly called "Aryan" or simply "Slavic" gaplogruppoy.
2. Гаплoгруппа I, окрашена на карте в сиреневый цвет. Это "варяжская" гаплогруппа, которая, как мы сможем в скором времени убедиться, является ДРУГОЙ славянской гаплогруппой. + K:? P / G0, H + V +} "r 2. Gaplogruppa I, painted on the map in the lilac It." Varangian "haplogroup, which, as we will soon make a other Slavic haplogroup.
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4. Гаплогруппа N, фиолетовый цвет. Это "финская" гаплогруппа (O8 s $ E r9 I ' s /} 1 V1 Z 4. Haplogroup N, purple color. This is the "Finnish" haplogroup
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Genotype modern Slavs (and other nations) is quite heterogeneous, however for all Slavic groups characterized Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) of 34-55%. On the outskirts of the area incorporate Slavic haplogroup neighboring nations.

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I'm tired of you, jerk ...................... Like adult .......... Posted 05/02/2016 18:13
Chet slishkom little yellow on the territory of Bulgaria ... Varangian will be more ... :) Posted on 05.02.2016 19:05
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Опубликовано 5.2.2016 18:20:53 Author | Posted 02/05/2016 18:20:53
Bulgarians believe the Thracians. But who are the Thracians. The Thracians were haplogroup r1a, r1b and i. Which is a typical Slavic haplogroups.
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K => 40,000 years ago (probably arose in northern Iran) ' p- x. S ?: W4 { C/ y" l) U (X, f (Y% Z $ t2 U $ u1 I K => 40,000 years ago (probably arose in northern Iran) 'p- x S:.? W4 {C / y "l) U
T => 30,000 years ago (around the Red Sea or around the Persian Gulf)
$ T0 e5 B7 N. \; J => 30,000 years ago (in the Middle East) U, _- X3 @ J => 30,000 years ago (in the Middle East)
R => 28,000 years ago (in the Central Asia) 2 [# n- v5 z "F ' G / R R => 28,000 years ago (in the Central Asia)
! h. C- s! E1b1b => 26,000 years ago (in Northeast Africa) q "S6 C (m $ c : Y6 i + V E1b1b => 26,000 years ago (in Northeast Africa)
I => 25,000 years ago (in the Balkans) "}: F + G L" \, o, c5 m I => 25,000 years ago (in the Balkans)
0 Q. I; J1 => 20,000 years ago (in the Taurus/Zagros mountains) j0 q +} 2 P 'e, X, {4 U + B J1 => 20,000 years ago (in the Taurus / Zagros mountains)
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R1b => 18,000 years ago (around the Caspian Sea or Central Asia)
) J. ]. M% k v F & y3 [ ! R1a => 17,000 years ago (in southern Russia) [ 'T, y R1a => 17,000 years ago (in southern Russia)
G => 17,000 years ago (in the Middle East) 7 F0 t # s' \ 8 ~ 9 Y S (L G => 17,000 years ago (in the Middle East)
I2 => 17,000 years ago (in the Balkans) ) O% ^ 8 C s / r * n (P : d8 W '^ I2 => 17,000 years ago (in the Balkans)
E-V13 => 15,000 years ago (in the southern Levant or North Africa) 1 K, {* ?) H1 ^' F ~, ?) r & A9 p2 E x: n4 r + T% s0 U (B E-V13 => 15,000 years ago (in the southern Levant or North Africa) 1 K, {*?) H1 ^ 'F ~,) r?
I2b => 13,000 years ago (in Central Europe) / H / S C3 U; W0 F4 E
N1c1 => 12,000 years ago (in Siberia) & n * c6 F: k # w k7 r! ? ' S! U + r
E-M81 => 11,000 years ago (in Northwest Africa): T% K0 ^ 'U $ S- | $ K7 L. a, g # K
I2a => 11,000 years ago (in the Balkans) & R5 C *} 0 D # l X
G2a => 11,000 years ago (in the Levant or Anatolia)
R1b1b2 => 10,000 years ago (north or south of the Caucasus) 'E + r' [4 e9 Z + v + N R1b1b2 = > 10,000 years ago (north or south of the Caucasus)
I2b1 => 9,000 years ago (in Germany) + l! e1 S8 o; \( e* N- s$ v0 H ? 0 Z: 4 C (C (C% {I2b1 => 9,000 years ago (in Germany) + l e1 S8 o; \ (e * N- s $ v0 H!
I2a1 => 8,000 years ago (in Southwest Europe) / J; `5 Y $ B` 7 Y1 q & q
I2a2 => 7,500 years ago (in Southeast Europe)
I1 => 5,000 years ago (in Scandinavia) - P5 s" ^5 x$ Z 9 [7 a4 x4 7 M% K7 [% m * ` * b I1 => 5,000 years ago (in Scandinavia) -? P5 s" ^ 5 x $ Z
R1b-L21 => 4,000 years ago (in Central or Eastern Europe)
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R1b-S21 => 3,000 years ago (in Frisia or Central Europe) / n) M * u2 t0 c5 i (P3 h * j0 ~
I2b1a => less than 3,000 years ago (in Britain) * q. ] 6 i3 f (h "t / S ; h + P

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