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[Education] Education Russia vs Italy. Horror

Victoria
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по убыванию Posted 8.11.2015 22:02:32 | descending
Lyulёk,
Hello, I saw you often answer questions on tuition
Could you tell
my daughter is going to go to college after high school Italy
I've been honored, and how you need to understand 12 years of study ....
it ends this year 9 class, and how you do not want, what would it another year where the
'' Wobbled ', and college was not an option for us
You do not know whether it is possible to attach something to a school in Italy?
I will be very grateful for any information a pleasure ps:
thank you in advance
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Posted 08/11/2015 22:47:12

Re: Private schools in Italy.

my daughter is going to go to college after high school Italy
I've been honored, and how you need to understand 12 years of study ....
it ends this year 9 class, and how you do not want, what would it another year where the
'' Wobbled ', and college was not an option for us

I do not cradles, nothing that answer?

You move to Italy or the child simply go to learn?
If you want to go to school, do not take our 11 classes, 11 classes need a certificate + 1 year university or college (technical school, college, and so on. D). Just 12 years of school, even if it is "fancy" high school with 12 program does not roll, do not accept - tested, unfortunately.

If you are moving, then there is secondary vocational training is very strong. So far, according to my impressions preferable for the child choose a college, not high school, even for further education at the university and for admission to the same. That's what I'm going to just devote a separate topic, when I can gather. Probably, such a topic is necessary, as our people from the former Soviet Union is very "linear" thinking in terms obarzovaniya. And in my opinion, following the Soviet stereotypes, people are badly mistaken when choosing a school for children.
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Posted 08/11/2015 23:01:20

Re: Private schools in Italy.

Come on, alena, waiting for your arguments. And sometime soon Christmas, then the end will come first year at secondary school, and in the second grade, I think it is necessary to have some understanding on where to go, and in February 2018 we have recorded in the high school. And although I am inclined to technical vocational education (but what ????? That ambush), I am afraid that in the end the choice will fall on the liceo classico. In principle, a good (even perfect, my husband and completed such a school), but looking around .... so scary (
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Posted 08/11/2015 23:31:46

Re: Private schools in Italy.

whether it is possible to attach it to a day school in Italy?

Uh ... "attach" ... In what sense? Where to attach? To whom? And How? Those. how do you imagine the whole situation in general? Where are you now, what country? It is assumed that a girl of 15 years, one will go to another country and there will be a live and learn? And at what level of her tongue? And you? As you can see, to answer your question, it is necessary that you have answered on the first bunch of other issues.

In principle, theoretically (and even a little) it is quite possible - to do after our 9th grade in IT. high school, finish it (it is 5 years old, if not stay on the 2nd year) and go to college (if possible). I know several kids who did it. But! This so-called "Chernobyl" children - all of the information they learned to IT. families who took them on summer holiday for many years. The same family have served as guarantors - both financial and social - it's a minor! Those. taking on a bunch of signatures under liabilities, then the children have lived these 5 years, etc. As far as I know, there are specials. procedure and list of documents for such situations (on the Embassy's website). But perhaps already "covered the bench" ... I can not say ...

I know about a girl, too, "the ex-Chernobyl", which went on IT. high school (I do not know, private or public) without the help of IT. family and generally in another city. All parents do (paperwork, finances, etc.). But this girl was not able to finish my studies before the end - was too difficult, and it is a year or two back home. Incidentally, the house was a good student and an Italian sort of knew.

Those. mechanism of foreign income, not residing in Italy, um. high schools, in fact, exist, but it can be quite different even in 2 different state. schools, to say nothing about private. Learn. Try to contact several international schools you like (there is half the teaching of English, but the Italian is still necessary to know well). Maybe in some private schools in Italy and there are specials. programs for foreigners - as helping to adapt, learn the language and so on, but I do not know about that. I repeat and emphasize - it is necessary to communicate personally with the specific account. institutions and learn everything they (the payment and hostel to the conditions and guarantees - it may be that this is in terms of dock-ing cowboy's office, after which will not take ...).

PS. What says Alena - prof. education in Italy - this is NOT a vocational school in our understanding, it is rather closer to the College (as it is now - college?), ie Wed. specialist. education. There are also what we know as a vocational school, but that's another story.

As for the choice, it is very important to determine as soon as possible - if, for example, have an interest in chemistry, engineering, computer science and more a heap of directions, the classic high school rather hurt than help. Those. I sympathize with Alyona (more time there to write), and as VO in Italy, all our friends who have children in higher education or have already finished, unanimously repeat - in Italy there is not something that the prospects for, and even just even some opportunities to work in the specialty ...

And you daughter is in Italy ... it you want? ...
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Posted on 09/11/2015 2:31:45

Re: Private schools in Italy.

I revered here you ... And I remembered a phrase from the recent blogs "Italian whining." Infectious, apparently.
What says Alena - prof. education in Italy - this is NOT a vocational school in our understanding, it is rather closer to the College (as it is now - college?), ie Wed. specialist. education. There are also what we know as a vocational school, but that's another story.

Uh ... well, you can read more of what where, what is closer? And in our understanding of what? And then I called after years of living in St. Petersburg related to some things changed dramatically. "Linear" is very diminished. Even we have very different technical and vocational schools, let alone talk about Italy.
My husband is the teacher in a vocational school here not mathematics they were not tortured, yes. True to October last year, all graduates are already working, but not the top managers, alas, how sad One year later the truth is now something like Production, another designer for a major international corporation, the third came to the university at the prom. design (it is very difficult to do), and so on. d.
but looking around .... so scary (

And to live at all scary. And if you fear the 4 school all in a row, it is better to shoot. Or learn the "cry Yaroslavna" and join the chorus of accident victims by the Italian education Apparently, it calms the nerves.

Angry Today I better go
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Posted on 09/11/2015 3:19:53

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Her Alyona, no time - to respond properly, it is necessary to climb on the site Miura and detail to paint, what is meant in the acronym bukvochki account. institutions and pry. Design, you say? So what's this vocational school? I was referring to such structures, which take "detishkoff" who learn anywhere else can not and does not want to. Some even without lichentsa media. Or for 2-3 years in the same class, and things are there. Can arrange special. Course di Recupero, to bring them to the exam and barely allow at least learn something, and then to work. I periodically with our sliding down the mountain, met a crowd of students of the "vocational" going to practice. What can I say? ... To put it mildly, (mor ...) persons who are not mutilated seal intellect ...

PS. Alena, even just write a list of what direction (indiritstsi) in the "vocational school", where work is your husband? Trite words, "to whom" teach? And then talk some "in-general" is obtained. Give concrete.

PPP. About "our" I'm probably worse than you know. You worked with these organizations, right? And I can only judge on the familiar. And in this case, Architecture and Civil Engineering College, which has been the daughter of my mother's colleagues (then enrolling at the faculty of architecture at once on the 3rd course, is now working on a specialty in German) - it's still not = vocational school construction ... The same goes for any other areas - cooking, auto mechanics, radio, etc.

Here in Italy it is not so, but the bundle (on intellectual, property, even a national basis) is still there. According to my observations, the guys who study on computer or radzhonerii differ both from those who are learning in class. high school, and those who learn, for example, "the porter."
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Posted on 09/11/2015 3:21:49

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Perhaps it's time to meet spatki ... Alyona, watch - posts to which I replied - netuti ... Or, in the eyes of the dark? ...
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Posted on 09/11/2015 3:37:39

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Alena, even just write a list of what direction (indiritstsi) in the "vocational school", where work is your husband? Trite words, "to whom" teach?

Later I will write in detail. In general - are taught carpentry, my husband is a constructor-technologist of furniture, it also teaches students ... And yes, it is vocational.
Can arrange special. Course di Recupero, to bring them to the exam and barely allow at least learn something, and then to work.

My husband, too, such classes, maybe there is. But it is certainly not all classes. If you are so contingent can see, it does not mean that there is no other. Although much depends on the institution and on the people who work there. I would not advise to rely on their attitudes and opinions of other parents, too, like our own, and local. Only then own intuition and insider infa from the teacher themselves In a sense, teachers usually know the "situation in the hospital." But in this I was lucky, I will not deny, among them, too, not all are adequate, but I have got such .

We also have various colleges and technical schools are different, you need to look at the situation. Pile nuanced influences. Maybe theoretical training is weak, but if the child likes something and he gets to it, and are friendly, the ... the results are very interesting, because if you want to complete their education can be worked, but without the parent kicks and funds.

And further. To work as a janitor, we must be able to handle special. appliances. not everyone in our time janitor will take. And in order to work as a loader, you need to have the right to forklift and be able to work with the warehouse program "Stupid," there are very few professions
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Posted on 09/11/2015 4:19:38

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Perhaps it's time to meet spatki ... Alyona, watch - posts to which I replied - netuti ... Or, in the eyes of the dark? ...
it may in the previous subject? from which it is separated
http://italiaunoduetre.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=4038&view=unread#unread
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Опубликовано 9.11.2015 08:01:16 Author | Posted 09/11/2015 8:01:16

Re: Private schools in Italy.

[Quote = «Lyulёk"]
Often I go to Italy to work naturally with her daughter, and she is very much like Italy
I wanted to send it to the older Czech school to get a certificate of the EU, and then to go to Italy, but I thought, if you can just send in the Italian school, which would then have been less of a problem with the receipt
A lot of countries are practicing high school for foreigners, so I think it's not a problem to send the child to study in other countries, especially when there is someone to keep an eye on My daughter is studying in the republican sports school of Olympic reserve, on five and four, I do not want to leave it at 10 and 11 class, in order to devote more time to studying and preparing for university
Thank you all for the information
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