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Today looked interviews with fashion historian Alexander Vasiliev. Basically, I look and listen to him always happy. Undoubtedly, it is an expert in their field and is quite interesting. But today, he expressed his point of view on a very complex and controversial topic. When asked how he sees the fashion coming years, he said, that it will be more and more elements to appear Muslim clothing. This is due to the fact that in his opinion, the Muslim religion gradually presses for all other religions and worlds. And soon the world will be ruled by Muslims. And do not we, but our daughter has already will walk wrapped in scarves. He is confident in the evidence of this moment. As an example the fact that in the European family on average 1.3 children, while Muslim family 12. And in 2012 in Belgium (!!!!!!), the most common male name for the newborn was Mohammed's name (not quite sure that it is correctly written the name, I'm sorry, if that). Well, as impressive? And somehow I felt uncomfortable, uncomfortable ..... Although about the plan I sometimes thought, when I am in a Yekaterinburg. Fewer believe that I am in the depths of Russia, and more and more it seems that I am in Central Asia. And what do you think about this? It scares you? Or some other thoughts in your head?
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Posted 22/09/2014 17:25:23

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All well and there unfortunately.
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Posted 22/09/2014 22:19:53

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Nah, I'm with the layouts soglasna.Ne not want to go in head scarves and I do not want my children to go to them. By the way, when I lived in Moscow, yes, really scary it was the abundance of Muslims, but here in the Piedmont outback this does not come across.
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Posted 22/09/2014 22:48:48

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It is not only the opinion of Vasilyeva, I particularly heard this prediction in 1999 from the mouth of a respected professor (by the way, Orthodox) that the near future Russia - Muslim, but then the Chinese ... So do not be upset for a long time due to the dominance of Islam, including clothing and this is projected to end. If interested can search for articles by this scientist.
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Опубликовано 22.9.2014 23:33:46 Author | Posted 22/09/2014 23:33:46

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No, Vasilev said the future of the Muslim, not only Russia, but also about the future of the whole of Europe. Apparently, not only in Russia and Europe. Never I can not understand why people can not live without violence, one above the other. Well, it would seem, everything is simple. One white, one black, the third yellow. Well, imagine you lived in his own world, as they see fit. So, as usual, as dictated by their religion. But why "with its charter in another monastery"? What's the need for this - to subdue dissent? Nonsense...
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Posted 22/09/2014 23:41:14

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Islam in Russia. Historical and cultural context:
for the release of "Essays on the history of Islamic civilization"
(In 2 volumes Volume I -. C 936 Volume II -. 776 with ROSSPEN., 2008)



PRESS CONFERENCE

Moscow, RIA Novosti

May 15, 2009., 15.00 (room number 3)

Islam - one of the world's religions, whose origins are from ancient times, and the number of followers has hundreds of millions of people worldwide. The history of Russia as a country firmly linked with the history of the Muslim peoples.

With almost all the civilizations of Northern Eurasia disappeared over time (leaving the living cultural heritage of the peoples of Russia today), preserved only two - Russian and Islamic. Both are involved in the integration and structuralization of the cultural and historical area of ​​northern Eurasia.

Today, the Russian Muslims live in almost all the subjects of the Federation. The peculiarity of Russian Islam, until recently, it was a low degree of politicization, tolerance, allowing the Muslim peoples to live peacefully and to work with representatives of other faiths. Islam like any other religion coexists and interacts with other religions and cultures, giving them influence and enduring own evolution.

In 2009, the publishing ROSSPEN released monograph "Essays on the history of Islamic civilization" (in 2 volumes, under the total. Ed. Kobischanova YM), which is the fruit of many years of work of a large international group of authors. The book is devoted to the medieval history of the great Islamic civilization of Kazan and Tyumen in the north to Mozambique and Indonesia to the south, from the Atlantic coast to the Chinese seas. Among the 30 authors of the book - Muslims and non-Muslims, men and women of twelve nationalities, citizens of the six states. The peculiarity of the monograph is a scientific interest in Islamic civilization as a whole and its individual branches in combination with at least a deep interest in other civilizations and world civilization development process.

In 2009, the book was awarded the two highest awards: UNESCO Diploma in the nomination "The best edition, making a significant contribution to the dialogue of cultures" and the Diploma of the Laureate of the BPA Competition, 2008 "Best Books of the Year".

The press conference was attended by:

- Kobischanov Yuri Mikhailovich, doctor of historical sciences, senior researcher at the Institute of African Studies;

- Meyer Mikhail Serafimovich, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor, Director of the Institute of Asian and African Studies of Moscow State University. MV Lomonosov Moscow State University;

- Andrew K. Sorokin, Ph.D., winner of the State Prize of Russia in the field of science and technology, Director General of the publishing house "Russian Political Encyclopedia".

As well as members of the editorial board of the newspaper, representatives of public and religious organizations.



Collective monograph provides insight into the diversity of the Islamic world on the basis of civilized approach - so praised his co-editor of the publication, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor, Director of the Institute of Asian and African Studies of Moscow State University. MV University Mikhail Meyer. According to him, it is a "good gift" not only for Muslims but for all who are professionally or amateur interest in Islam, this book gets you closer to the answer to an urgent question about the reasons for "sustained success of Islam in the modern world, where Christianity, Buddhism and other religions can not boast of increasing the number of its adherents. " According to the scientist, the matter is not in the "youth" of the Muslim religion, as is commonly believed. "Essays on the history of Islamic civilization" say it in mind that Islam - a religion that "surprisingly is able to synthesize the local tradition," which translates into "civilizational multiplicity of life of the Islamic world."

The initiator of the publication, the project manager and executive editor Yuri Kobischanov - doctor of historical sciences, senior researcher at the Institute for African Studies told about the concept of civilized approach and the main sections of the 2-volume publication: it is a systematic description of the sociological culture of the Islamic world, from the Bedouin, peasants and seafarers to criminal youth subcultures; it is a comprehensive study of Islamic trade and the development of political and legal thought of Islamic civilization, and the development of the humanities, arts and architecture, and even the history of the first Euro-Islamic community, and more. For example, it was mentioned that only Russian Islam is represented by three civilizational branches: Turkic-Hanafi (Tatar-Turkish), Northeast Caucasian and Northwest Caucasian (this new trend exists among the Circassians and Abkhazians from the XIX century.) . The book is devoted to the history of medieval Islamic civilization, chronologically limited study of the XVI century.

Most of the work on creation of monographs did scientists Russian institutes: the Institute of African Studies, Institute of Oriental Studies, IAAS Moscow State University, and the Institute of Ismaili Studies in London. The specialists were attracted sources in many languages, in addition to Arabic and Farsi. All photos of monuments in the book - the author. However, the group of authors did not consider the work completely finished: in the publication is not included sections on science in the Islamic world, as well as extensive in terms of the section on religious philosophy.

15 years, 30 highly skilled artists from 6 countries and 1000 copies. According to the CEO of the publishing house "Russian Political Encyclopedia" (ROSSPEN) Andrey Sorokin, the small circulation is considered to be a pilot. The plans of publishing - not just a reprint edition, and excretion of a higher level of an illustrative block "Essays." Publisher does not exclude that in the future can be the preparation of a fundamental encyclopedia of Islamic civilization on the basis of the two-volume issued. Obviously, the success of "Sketches" is provided: the publication has received two prestigious international book award, they are actively interested readers. According A.Sorokin, the value of the book goes far beyond the events of the scientific world: publishers rightly expect the international resonance, as analogues of such publication does not exist in the world.
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Posted 22/09/2014 23:47:07

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No, Vasilev said the future of the Muslim, not only Russia, but also about the future of the whole of Europe. Apparently, not only in Russia and Europe. Never I can not understand why people can not live without violence, one above the other. Well, it would seem, everything is simple. One white, one black, the third yellow. Well, imagine you lived in his own world, as they see fit. So, as usual, as dictated by their religion. But why "with its charter in another monastery"? What's the need for this - to subdue dissent? Nonsense...

I propose a broader view of what makes you uncomfortable, try to read, to hear the views of professionals, historians, scientists, sociologists, and then, in my opinion, many things become clear to you For example, the people-sotsionalnye sushestvuet and can not exist in isolation, without affecting each other. Regarding the methods of influence - is another question probably depends on the level of people.
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Опубликовано 23.9.2014 00:06:18 Author | Posted 23/09/2014 00:06:18

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No, I'm not about influence, this is just clear, I'm talking about imposing. How sure the same Vasiliev, after some time, our daughter will have to go wrapped in scarves. What is the reason my daughter-Slav should wrap up in these same scarves? Only, for God's sake. do not consider me a nationalist. I never was and she did not get along well and I respect all religions. By the way, my best friend since childhood friend - Bashkir. And it never stopped us from being loved ones souls. I vote with both hands for freedom of choice and tolerance. And even more so - for our children !!! I already hardly anyone will be able to wrap up in scarves though, at least in the covered ...
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Posted on 09/23/2014 7:59:28

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And for me the best Muslim laws and traditions ,, than the new "civilized" European, parents can not be father, mother calling, blue, pink family and adoption of children, transvestites, gays, lesbians, pedophiles, nudists and other such legalized in some European countries evil ... If there was a referendum, I would have voted for the Muslims ... than "civilized" Evropy..I innovate the way, where does the scarves in general, not all Muslims are obliged to wear them and it is only a part of their delat..Bolshaya clothes in a mosque, as well as Christians in the church ... I lived in Uzbekistan iTadzhikistane, entirely Muslim residents, nothing terrible or bad I have not videla..Lyudi fear and do not like what they do not know, think it is bad just because they do It is unknown and it is not clear ... of course I'm not for aggressive militant Muslims, those who kill and stones fill up, and other savagery, but against it and do normal people are Muslims.
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Posted on 09/23/2014 9:13:13

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No, Vasilev said the future of the Muslim, not only Russia, but also about the future of the whole of Europe.
This "horror stories" for many years. In geography lessons tell us about it.
Just a stronger link mogochislennoe absorbs weaker.
"Bundled up in shawls" have in the case of radical Islam win (eg, as in Iran). But Russia is not threatened in the next few years. Because strong enough Orthodox Church, which by the way also now makes its own rules and also wants women changed clothes! (Look on the Internet "orthodox fashion" and you will see how the church advises to dress).
It seems to me that so many people can just make a voluntary choice in favor of Islam.
I do not read the Koran, but they say that Islam is ... let's say "religion is more correct." Not smyslshe "best" and that Islam is less ambiguity than in Orthodoxy (or other religions) that Islam clearly states how to live, provides answers to many questions. And many people believe that religion more than fair and reasonable life. With this easy to live.
Well, something like that explained to me
I remember that in the early 2000s a surge "convert" was in the non-Muslim regions of Russia.
Sent me to write a note about the pictures in hijabs. And "pasportisty" I was told that ordinary Muslims are quietly photographed without a headscarf, do not make any special pritenzy and loudest scream .... Russian women dressed scarves "in the fashion." "Convert" - so I called them. Do you know what the reason was called the transition to Islam? ..... Series "Clone". If you remember was a series about cloning, where the main characters were Muslims, he was shown the life of the family, beautiful clothes women dancing. I, by the way, this episode still like and I'm reviewing some of the still Beginning the 2000s - a time when they started to become popular belly dancing. In general, some women in the wake of the feminine beauty of Islam began and to move into a religion.
I remember that the imam grew angry at the words of the "newly converted"
In general, as I understand it, the Koran does not order envelop from head to foot, but some are willing to be treated in this context. If you pay attention, that is, Muslim women who do not cover their heads, there are just a shawl, is, that is closed and the neck and chest, and of those who leave only the eyes. Muslims living in European countries, could remove all these scarves ... but it is a choice of their family. Although the rules still violate both men and women. It is not visible when you look at them from afar, and if in contact with them, then you know that they are sinners
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